Variation from Sega?

ZFuhrer

Member
I love that this server is basically a recreation of official jp blue burst, but I'm just wondering to what extent you might allow slight deviations. Mostly I'm wondering if we can put the two Black Paper quests drops to a vote in some form or another. Also though, my good friend who designed all 5 of the Episode 2 Lost Hopkins Quests (Only the first 3 of which were released on SCHTServ though) was wondering if it would be at all possible to add these here. As anyone that ever followed even for a brief time the 'Quests Development Section' of the SCHT Forums not many user made quests were ever accepted, Lee being the head quest designer(iirc) for awhile before his promotion to Admin was very strict. Anyways, keep up the great work here, I fully understand if you don't want any unofficial quest content on this server.
 

Gnome

Member
This is my own personal opinion, and you're free to disagree or agree with me and this isn't anything to go by.

I personally think user made content (as of the moment) isn't all that needed, we want a healthy vanilla server, as close as can be.
I think we should consider possibly including such content in the future if the community decides that, and if things become somewhat stale and lack-luster, but as I said, this isn't anything official and is purely my opinion, I'd say wait for Soda's word on this.

At this current time, I don't think user generated content is needed.
 

Aleron Ives

Member
ZFuhrer said:
Also though, my good friend who designed all 5 of the Episode 2 Lost Hopkins Quests (Only the first 3 of which were released on SCHTServ though) was wondering if it would be at all possible to add these here.
Who would that be? Most people give credit to Lee for the Episode II Hopkins quests that SCHTServ had, and by all accounts, they weren't very fair (unkillable Megid traps, Baranz clustered around Healing Rings, etc.).
 
I'm the one the created the quests. I did my best to make them very similar to sega's enemy counts and style of enemy spawns. Many others would agree and If you were able to try them out yourself, you'd probably think so. Only A few people may recognize my name here but I assure you I have more experience with the game then just about anyone.



Lee physically made the quests since obviously he had the capabilities, but the map, enemy spawns and locations we're all created by me.(Besides a few certain spawns that lee changed which I could point out easily). The stupid 30 hit megid/gizonde/foie traps were not my idea, that was all lee. If these quests were brought in, you could get rid of them and i'd be happy.


I still have the ideas for seabed Hopkins as well as tower/crater and desert. I can assure you it would only enrich the server if you give it a chance.
 

Aleron Ives

Member
Thanks for the correction, and...

Long time no see.
> GuardianGirth

Everybody on SCHTServ seemed to be under the incorrect impression that Lee made them all himself.
 

ZFuhrer

Member
I may have missed an update here on the forums regarding the MA4 quests, and while I'm always happy to see this server continue to progress, I really enjoyed the idea where all of these Max Attack Quests would be available at special(maybe not event per se) times, like once a week or maybe even once a month for a couple days or something. Regardless of the frequency if that does happen though, being a veteran of the Sega Western BB Server I actually came to enjoy the lack of those quests in hindsight after having them made available freely for so long on SCHT, while they are all great quests, they kind of made other quests for hunting [almost] entirely pointless.

Again, while I understand if you don't want user made content at least right now, that's entirely fine, after all this server is still in its infancy basically and 'Vanilla' is the finest of the flavors. However I don't really think you can ever have too much quest variety, well except for stuff like Strange Sighting, I have never been a proponent of something as silly as a free guaranteed rare enemy. Maybe we could just save user made content availability for in game lobby holidays or perhaps even a server exclusive event.

Also, as far as my desire to have the BPD Duo of Quests drops put up to a community session or vote or what have you, I really only think super 'Uber' rares my only example I personally care about is Yasha honestly, should not be apart of that, assuming the list is similar or identical to what I remember(if it was changed on JP BB Servers then that's news to me.) A drop like that is soo rare though, and while you can argue it doesn't matter because Episode IV items exist and Jizai outclasses Sange and Yasha by far, well I certainly concede that point and end there.
 

Kevdo

Secret Agent
Wow, some really old names popping up throughout this forum. It makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :p

I would agree with keeping content vanilla for now. I think once the server as a whole has matured a bit, we could use the addition of new, tougher quests.

I'm very against new, overpowered items though. I really hated those on SCHT.
 

Matt

Administrator
Staff member
Well, when it comes to JPBB BPD1/2, these are the lists (may not be accurate as to what Ephinea has):

Zu
Code:
Normal
--------

Vivienne
Stag Cutlery
Twin Brand
Twin Blaze
Demolition Comet
MKB
Partizan of Lightning
Electro Frame
God/Body
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer

Hard
------

Final Impact
Panzer Faust
Flame Visit
Maser Beam
NUG 2000 Bazooka
Ano Bazooka
Cannon Rouge
Photon Launcher
Red Scorpio
Flame Garment
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Add Slot

Very Hard
------------

Slicer of Assassin
Diska of Liberator
Diska of Braveman
Flight Cutter
Slicer of Fanatic
Red Slicer
Flight Fan
Thirteen
Infantry Gear
Regenerate Gear Adv.
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer

Ultimate
----------

Ophelie Seize
Handgun: Milla
Angel Harp
Spread Needle
Frozen Shooter
Holy Ray
Yasminkov 3000R
Yasminkov 7000V
Tanegashima
Yasminkov 9000M
Smartlink
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Add Slot

Sand Rappy
Code:
Normal
---------

Smoking Plate
Bunny Ears
Tripolic Shield
Resist/Burning
Resist/Blizzard
Resist/Holy
God/Arm
God/Power
Rappy's Beak

Hard
------

Red Coat
Invisible Guard
Cat Ears
Yata Mirror
Cure/Confuse
Cure/Shock
Cure/Slow
Cure/Paralyse
Cure/Freeze
Cure/Poison
Star Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Rappy's Beak

Very Hard
------------

Madam's Umbrella
Madam's Parasol
Tyrell's Parasol
Cane of Zumiuran
Windmill
Sting Tip
Alive Aqhu
Rabbit Wand
Kasami Bracer
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Rappy's Beak
Book of Hitogata

Ultimate
----------

Madam's Umbrella
Mace of Adaman
Club of Zumiuran
Windmill
Evil Curst
Battle Verge
Plantain Leaf
Technical Crozer
Standstill Shield
God/Ability
God/Technique
Divine Protection
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Rappy's Beak

Dorphon
Code:
Normal
--------

DB's Saber 3026
DB's Saber 3069
DB's Saber 3077
Officer Uniform
God/Battle
God/Mind
Sol Atomizer
Rappy's Beak
Add Slot

Hard
------

DB's Saber 3062
DB's Saber 3064
DB's Saber 3067
DB's Saber 3069
DB's Saber 3070
DB's Saber 3073
DB's Saber 3075
Elysion
Flamberge
Red Sword
Secure Feet
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Add Slot

Very Hard
------------

Durandal
Ancient Saber
Agito 1975
Agito 1977
Agito 1980
Agito 1983
Agito 1991
Agito 2001
Yasha
Guren
Star Atomizer
Sol Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Add Slot

Ultimate
-----------

Agito 1975
Agito 1977
Agito 1980
Agito 1983
Agito 1991
Agito 2001
Kamui
Sange
Yamigarasu
Shouren
Star Atomizer
Moon Atomizer
Add Slot

BPD2
Code:
Normal
--------

Yunchang
Phoenix Claw
Master Raven
Last Swan
Rianov 303SNR
Decalog
Smartlink
Yasakani Magatana
Photon Drop

Hard
------

Kusanagi
Flapjack Flapper
Yunchang
Snake Spire
Phoenix Claw
Shouren
Master Raven
Rianov 303SNR
Decalog
Black Hound Cuirass
Stink Shield
Yata Mirror
Smartlink
Centurion/Ability
Divine Protection
Photon Drop

Very Hard
------------

Kusanagi
Vivienne
Phoenix Claw
Guren
Last Swan
Rianov 303SNR
Decalog
Black Hound Cuirass
Gratia
Stink Shield
Yata Mirror
Smartlink
Centurion/Ability
Divine Protection
Yasakani Magatana
Photon Drop

Ultimate
-----------

Kusanagi
Shouren
Vivienne
Phoenix Claw
Guren
Last Swan
Rianov 303SNR
Decalog
Black Hound Cuirass
Gratia
Stink Shield
Yata Mirror
Smartlink
Centurion/Ability
Divine Protection
Yasakani Magatana
Photon Drop

Source: 1, 2.
 

Sodaboy

Administrator
Staff member
Current export from the server:

[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Rappy Route Normal
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] BUNNY EARS
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] TRIPOLIC SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] SMOKING PLATE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] God/Power
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] God/Arm
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Rappy's Beak
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] RABBIT WAND
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Resist/Storm
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Resist/Devil
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Resist/Holy
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Resist/Burning
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Zu Route Normal
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] ELECTRO FRAME
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] BLACK KING BAR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:22] VIVIENNE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] TWIN BLAZE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] TWIN BRAND
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] METEOR CUDGEL
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PARTISAN of LIGHTNING
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DEMOLITION COMET
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MONKEY KING BAR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] God/Body
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Dorphon Route Normal
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KUSANAGI
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] OFFICER UNIFORM
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] God/Mind
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] God/Battle
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Rappy Route Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] CAT EARS
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] INVISIBLE GUARD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YATA MIRROR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RED COAT
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Cure/Slow
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Cure/Freeze
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Cure/Confuse
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Cure/Shock
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Rappy's Beak
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Zu Route Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] CANNON ROUGE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] ANO BAZOOKA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] NUG2000-BAZOOKA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FLAME GARMENT
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PHOTON LAUNCHER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FINAL IMPACT
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PANZER FAUST
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MASER BEAM
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FLAME VISIT
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RED SCORPIO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Dorphon Route Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FLAMBERGE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RED SWORD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Spread
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] ELYSION
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RED SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SECURE FEET
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KALADBOLG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DB'S SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Rappy Route Very Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] TYRELL'S PARASOL
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MADAM'S PARASOL
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] HITOGATA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KASAMI BRACER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] WINDMILL
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] ALIVE AQHU
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] CLUB OF ZUMIURAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] CLUB OF LACONIUM
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RABBIT WAND
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STING TIP
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MADAM'S UMBRELLA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Rappy's Beak
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Zu Route Very Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SLICER OF FANATIC
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] THIRTEEN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] INFANTRY GEAR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] REGENE GEAR ADV.
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FLIGHT CUTTER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RED SLICER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DISKA OF BRAVEMAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DISKA OF LIBERATOR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SLICER OF ASSASSIN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Dorphon Route Very Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] GUREN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASHA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] ANCIENT SABER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DURANDAL
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Rappy Route Ultimate
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] EVIL CURST
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DIVINE PROTECTION
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] God/Ability
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] God/Technique
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STANDSTILL SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Rappy's Beak
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] BATTLE VERGE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] CLUB OF ZUMIURAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PLANTAIN LEAF
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MADAM'S UMBRELLA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STING TIP
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MACE OF ADAMAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Zu Route Ultimate
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] OPHELIE SEIZE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] HANDGUN:MILLA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SMARTLINK
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] TANEGASHIMA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] ANGEL HARP
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASMINKOV 9000M
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] FROZEN SHOOTER
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASMINKOV 7000V
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SPREAD NEEDLE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASMINKOV 3000R
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STANDSTILL SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] HOLY RAY
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal: Dorphon Route Ultimate
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SHOUREN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] AGITO
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YAMIGARASU
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SANGE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KAMUI
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal 2: Normal
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YUNCHANG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PHOENIX CLAW
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] LAST SWAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RIANOV 303SNR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MASTER RAVEN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DECALOG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Photon Drop
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] UNION GUARD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DF SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DE ROL LE SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal 2: Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SNAKE SPIRE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PHOENIX CLAW
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SHOUREN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] MASTER RAVEN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RIANOV 303SNR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DECALOG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] BLACK HOUND CUIRASS
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YATA MIRROR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STINK SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SMARTLINK
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Centurion/Ability
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DIVINE PROTECTION
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Photon Drop
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Liberta Kit
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal 2: Very Hard
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YUNCHANG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KUSANAGI
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PHOENIX CLAW
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] GUREN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] VIVIENNE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RIANOV 303SNR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] LAST SWAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DECALOG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] BLACK HOUND CUIRASS
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YATA MIRROR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STINK SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] GRATIA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASAKANI MAGATAMA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SMARTLINK
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Centurion/Ability
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DIVINE PROTECTION
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Photon Drop
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23]
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Item List for Black Paper's Deal 2: Ultimate
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YUNCHANG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] KUSANAGI
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] PHOENIX CLAW
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] GUREN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] VIVIENNE
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] RIANOV 303SNR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] LAST SWAN
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DECALOG
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] BLACK HOUND CUIRASS
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YATA MIRROR
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] STINK SHIELD
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] GRATIA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] YASAKANI MAGATAMA
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] SMARTLINK
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] Centurion/Ability
[08-28-2015, 08:19:23] DIVINE PROTECTION

Sorry it doesn't list the models for DB SABERs and AGITOs up there. It doesn't read the description field for the items, only the names.

Looks like we forgot to include some F U items in there like the Atomizers (in Dorphon Ultimate) and a Photon Drop for BPD2 Ultimate. Will have to correct that.

Oh, some other stuff is missing too, guess I'll have to fix that.

EDIT: Wow the BPD2 Hard route list on the server was really off. lol all this should be changed tomorrow, thanks
 
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