Sky Blue Mag?

Discussion in 'General' started by portugeek, Feb 25, 2017.

  1. portugeek

    portugeek Member

    How do I get a Sky Blue baby Mag? Every guide I've followed doesn't seem to work. I keep getting Brown.

    UPDATE: HUcaseal: Row 1 - Costume 8, got me a Sky Blue.
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2017
  2. Spuz

    Spuz Without rain, nothing grows.

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    Sky blue, brown, pink and some ugly viridia looking green are all random character mag colours. You cannot make one for them.

    So you have to keep remaking a costume that chooses random. If your getting brown, then that costume is one that is random. Keep trying.
     
  3. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff I have quit the game

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    That's not true on Ephinea anymore. "Random" isn't a thing. All costumes are preset.
     
  4. Spuz

    Spuz Without rain, nothing grows.

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    Oh really, got a link? I was using random colours not to long ago. If it was changed would be nice info too add to my guide.
     
  5. Eva

    Eva Member

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    not sure where it's documented but yeah he's right, was just a certain costume for my sky blues. i think soly might have had a spreadsheet somewhere or something. there was a formula where you just added the costume number up to get each color, ill see if i can find it

    edit: pretty sure the numbers under soly's mini guide to mag color is what you're looking for.

    if color > 18
    {
    color -= 17
    }

    01 Red 02 Blue 03 Yellow 04 Bright Green 05 Purple 06 Black 07 White 08 Cyan 09 Brown 10 Orange 11 Light Blue 12 Gold 13 Mint Green 14 Fuschia 15 Grey 16 Cream 17 Pink 18 Dark Green

    I hope everyone understands that, if not... the number of your dressing thingy (Count the spaces from the first row until you reach the color or dressing you selected)

    if the number exceeds 18, get out 17 of it

    ^ direct quote + credit to soly, obviously ^^

    think that holds here? short of it is that 8 and 9 are generally the "random ones"
     
    Last edited: Feb 25, 2017
  6. Soly

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    @Spuz As Jeff said, it actually has never been random since (I'd say) way too long ago, maybe ever... for the character creation, drops do have random color I think.
    Maybe it was random in Sega's time and the lack of a color identifier in the 8 and 9 selectors was to reflect that but well.... You can still get all colors so there is no need for random... unless there are more colors?

    @Eva In any case, this list should do
    Code:
    Cast    NoCast  Color
    
    1-1     1-1     Red
    1-2     1-2     Blue
    1-3     1-3     Yellow
    1-4     1-4     Green
    1-5     1-5     Purple
    1-6     1-6     Black
    1-7     1-7     White
    1-8     1-8     Cyan
    1-9     1-9     Brown
    2-1     2-1     Orange
    2-2     2-2     Slate Blue
    2-3     2-3     Olive
    2-4     2-4     Turquoise
    2-5     2-5     Fuschia
    2-6     2-6     Grey
    2-7     2-7     Cream
    2-8     2-8     Pink
    2-9     2-9     Dark Green
    3-1             Red
    3-2             Blue
    3-3             Yellow
    3-4             Green
    3-5             Purple
    3-6             Black
    3-7             White
    
     
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  7. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff I have quit the game

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    I think it was random early on in Ephinea because "muh vanilla" but then changed very soon because "that's a dumb mechanic, suck it up vanilla lovers"

    I really don't feel like going through all the old announcements to find out though.
     
  8. Spuz

    Spuz Without rain, nothing grows.

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    Last time I tried to make a mag yellow. (within the last 2 months as it was my RAmars mag after I died). There was a slot on row two or three which kept doing random colours for me and a friend instead of Yellow. (after looking it up, that wasn't a 'yellow slot'). So it certainly was here before.

    I assume the numbers correlate to (row - slot)?
     
    Last edited: Feb 26, 2017
  9. Aleron Ives

    Aleron Ives Member

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    Fixed Mag colours upon character creation is an official Sega BB thing. They threw away the concept of costumes that generate random colours and instead assigned fixed colours to the costumes at the end of each row:

    http://www.pso-world.com/sections.php?op=viewarticle&artid=2308

    Mags drop with random colours because the new Mag code Sega introduced in GC no longer supports a colour of "unassigned". Mags drop with no colour at all on V2, and they are assigned a colour based upon the outfit of the first person to equip them. Once you equip an unassigned Mag, it gains the same colour as a starting Mag would get if you created a character with your current costume (including a random colour for the costume at the end of the row), and then its colour becomes permanent. As a result, you can find a baby Mag, bank it, use the Dressing Room, equip the Mag to get a specific colour, and then use the Dressing Room to restore your old outfit while keeping the Mag colour you wanted. Sega neglected to allocate a colour value to denote "unassigned" in the new GC Mag colour system, so Mags drop with random colours, instead.
     
  10. Soly

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    Yeah.
    As you can see, after 18 (2-9) it just wraps around on the list.
     
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  11. Soly

    Soly Member

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    Thought it would be good to reply here.

    NOTE
    Removed a lot of the reply since after finding the code in the client, it makes no sense to keep speculation based replies.

    Here is a list of colors that the game will give you based on the selected outfit, if your mag has an invalid color.
    Code:
    Class       HUmar      HUnewearl  HUcast     RAmar      RAcast     RAcaseal   FOmarl     FOnewm     FOnewearl  HUcaseal   FOmar      RAmarl 
    Costume 11: Orange     Red        Red        Red        Red        Pink       Red        Fuschia    Red        Red        Red        Red   
    Costume 12: Blue       Blue       Blue       Blue       Blue       Cyan       Blue       Blue       Blue       Blue       Blue       Cyan   
    Costume 13: Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Olive      Olive      Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Olive      Yellow 
    Costume 14: Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Green      Dark Green Green      Turquoise  Turquoise  Dark Green
    Costume 15: Slate Blue Purple     Purple     Purple     Slate Blue Slate Blue Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple 
    Costume 16: Black      Black      Grey       Black      Black      Black      Black      Black      Black      Black      Black      Black 
    Costume 17: White      White      White      White      White      Slate Blue White      White      White      Cream      White      White 
    Costume 18: Olive      Brown      Blue       Cream      White      Red        Pink       Red        Pink       Slate Blue Brown      Orange 
    Costume 19: Black      Dark Green Grey       Black      Orange     Cyan       Blue       Dark Green Black      Purple     Slate Blue Turquoise
    Costume 21: Red        Fuschia    Orange     Orange     Orange     Red        Red        Brown      Orange     Fuschia    Fuschia    Red   
    Costume 22: Cyan       Blue       Cyan       Cyan       Blue       Blue       Cyan       Blue       Blue       Blue       Cyan       Blue   
    Costume 23: Olive      Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Yellow     Brown      Yellow     Yellow     Olive      Brown      Yellow     Yellow 
    Costume 24: Turquoise  Turquoise  Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green Turquoise  Green      Turquoise  Dark Green Dark Green Dark Green
    Costume 25: Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple     Slate Blue Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple     Purple     Slate Blue Fuschia
    Costume 26: Black      Black      Black      Black      Grey       Orange     Black      Black      Black      Black      Black      Black 
    Costume 27: White      White      White      Cream      White      Cream      White      White      White      Cream      White      Pink   
    Costume 28: Grey       Pink       Purple     White      Blue       Fuschia    Pink       Purple     Grey       Black      Blue       Blue   
    Costume 29: White      Blue       Dark Green Brown      Purple     Yellow     Olive      Orange     Blue       Pink       Olive      White 
    Costume 31: Red        Red        Fuschia    Red        Fuschia    Slate Blue Red        Red        Red        Pink       Red        Red   
    Costume 32: Red        Red        Blue       Red        Cyan       Cyan       Red        Red        Red        Cyan       Red        Red   
    Costume 33: Red        Red        Olive      Red        Blue       Yellow     Red        Red        Red        Yellow     Red        Red   
    Costume 34: Red        Red        Dark Green Red        Turquoise  Turquoise  Red        Red        Red        Olive      Red        Red   
    Costume 35: Red        Red        Fuschia    Red        Slate Blue Purple     Red        Red        Red        Slate Blue Red        Red   
    Costume 36: Red        Red        Black      Red        Black      Grey       Red        Red        Red        Slate Blue Red        Red   
    Costume 37: Red        Red        White      Red        White      Grey       Red        Red        Red        Cream      Red        Red

    Basically, there is a list of colors to use when the mag color is invalid (above 17, 0 based)
    [​IMG]

    Edit... I had forgotten but Qwerty had posted about this before.
    So technically the colors the server does are actually wrong, there are no randoms but they shouldn't be the way they are (a costume gives the same color to every class).

    Oh well.. now that I got it from the client's code, that's cool.
     
    Last edited: Mar 3, 2017
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