New to the server, "No Carry" room and question about the rules

Elf Agito

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Dear Players/Mods of Ephinea

I joined the server recently, and this topic, is also meant as a small introduction. I have been playing PSO on and off since Dreamcast, and have been away for around 5 years. Recently, the game started calling to me again, and I decided to play. In this time, I dont play games as much, because I have more responsibilities now. But I buyed a cheap gamepad, and decided to play again sometimes. The server has been nice to me, and I like how well the game is running on the server, and have yet to see all the new improvements

Unfortunately, the reason I took the time to register on the forum, was because of something strange that happened while I was playing today. I will post the conversation that happened in a room I created, and Im hopping that someone can explain me what am I doing wrong, and/or what is this all about. Because the guy wouldnt expain me what his problem was to the end. Thus leaving me unsure, if I am breaking any server rule, or if the problem is not me

For context, I often name my rooms No Carry when I want to play normally and reawaken the thrill of the difficulty of the game, in trying to overcome it. No Carry, was one of two suggestions that the AI gave me, when I asked it about it.. the other suggestion was Slow Game
 
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Dear Players/Mods of Ephinea

I joined the server recently, and this topic, is also meant as a small introduction. I have been playing PSO on and off since Dreamcast, and have been away for around 5 years. Recently, the game started calling to me again, and I decided to play. In this time, I dont play games as much, because I have more responsibilities now. But I buyed a cheap gamepad, and decided to play again sometimes. The server has been nice to me, and I like how well the game is running on the server, and have yet to see all the new improvements

Unfortunately, the reason I took the time to register on the forum, was because of something strange that happened while I was playing today. I will post the conversation that happened in a room I created, and Im hopping that someone can explain me what am I doing wrong, and/or what is this all about. Because the guy wouldnt expain me what his problem was to the end. Thus leaving me unsure, if I am breaking any server rule, or if the problem is not me

For context, I often name my rooms No Carry when I want to play normally and reawaken the thrill of the difficulty of the game, in trying to overcome it. No Carry, was one of two suggestions that the AI gave me, when I asked it about it.. the other suggestion was Slow Game

14:08:16 Enter 02:US/Fodra:01-01
16:06:35 Enter 02:US/Fodra:01-01
16:07:13 Enter No Carry
17:23:25 42053268 Stealther what is no carry?
17:23:37 42053268 Stealther hand to hand only?
17:24:17 42140093 Elf Agito Why are you interested in that?
17:24:32 42140093 Elf Agito What is your motivation?
17:24:32 42053268 Stealther why? Becaus the title of them room said it
17:24:38 42140093 Elf Agito Yes
17:24:42 42053268 Stealther i dont have none, just curious
17:24:47 42053268 Stealther never saw that before thouh i woud try
17:24:51 42140093 Elf Agito Ah
17:25:07 42140093 Elf Agito Where are you from?
17:25:10 42053268 Stealther ny
17:25:21 42140093 Elf Agito And are you originally from Europe?
17:25:34 42053268 Stealther No im a colonizer from america
17:25:44 42140093 Elf Agito What is that?
17:26:00 42053268 Stealther my ancestors took this land
17:26:10 42140093 Elf Agito Where were they from?
17:26:20 42053268 Stealther i guess from africa
17:26:35 42140093 Elf Agito Dont be offended
17:26:44 42140093 Elf Agito Im just curious like yo
17:26:53 42053268 Stealther ok cool
17:26:56 42140093 Elf Agito If my question is uncomfortable I will stop
17:27:07 42140093 Elf Agito I didnt mean anything negative
17:27:13 42053268 Stealther its cool
17:27:51 42140093 Elf Agito Okay. Then can I ask more?
17:28:18 42053268 Stealther go on
17:28:38 42140093 Elf Agito Are you descendant from Britain? Or maybe another
17:28:47 42140093 Elf Agito European western nation?
17:28:52 42053268 Stealther I am from immigrants from west indies
17:29:10 42140093 Elf Agito West indies? This is in USA?
17:29:22 42053268 Stealther Jamaica
17:29:25 42053268 Stealther Not in USA
17:29:36 42140093 Elf Agito You are not white?
17:29:39 42053268 Stealther no
17:29:54 42140093 Elf Agito You said something abot coloniaism, so I assumed
17:30:02 42140093 Elf Agito Okay
17:30:04 42053268 Stealther iknow tht was jst flufff
17:30:12 42140093 Elf Agito About your question
17:30:18 42053268 Stealther but im concerned that you aren't playing
17:30:32 42053268 Stealther r u from japan?
17:30:34 42140093 Elf Agito Im not playing, because we are talking
17:30:55 42140093 Elf Agito Why do I think Im from Japan? Did they usually open rooms
17:31:03 42140093 Elf Agito Like this one?
17:31:17 42053268 Stealther You seem very intrigued and my experienec japanese people are very curiou
17:31:33 42140093 Elf Agito Interesting
17:31:43 42140093 Elf Agito Im not Japanese
17:32:33 42140093 Elf Agito Did you join this room just to ask your question?
17:32:41 42053268 Stealther no i join t play
17:32:50 42140093 Elf Agito To play? Really?
17:32:59 42140093 Elf Agito How long have you been playing this game?
17:33:05 42053268 Stealther a long time
17:33:10 42140093 Elf Agito How long?
17:33:15 42053268 Stealther and it can be longer if we play
17:33:22 42053268 Stealther since 2001
17:33:25 42140093 Elf Agito I have been playing since Dreamcast
17:33:28 42140093 Elf Agito Really?
17:33:31 42053268 Stealther yes
17:33:41 42053268 Stealther orignal dc then xbpx
17:33:44 42140093 Elf Agito And its fun for you to play Hard difficulty at lvl 105?
17:33:54 42053268 Stealther its fn when i play wih others
17:33:57 42053268 Stealther i like helping
17:34:04 42140093 Elf Agito Helping?
17:34:14 42140093 Elf Agito Why? What do you get out of helping people?
17:34:27 42053268 Stealther he satisfaction that i helped someone
17:34:38 42053268 Stealther its just a good feeling
17:34:44 42140093 Elf Agito Does it make you feel superior, since you helped?
17:34:44 42053268 Stealther selfish i suppose but so be tit
17:34:59 42053268 Stealther I help because I am superior
17:35:18 42140093 Elf Agito Wow, you are amazing
17:35:39 42140093 Elf Agito How long have you been helping peope like this?
17:35:56 42053268 Stealther for as long as I was any higher than anymore one
17:36:12 42053268 Stealther so the momet i because iunno maybe 50 or somthing or 25 i dont rmmber
17:36:33 42140093 Elf Agito I meant, how many months/years
17:36:49 42053268 Stealther i dont only do that,
17:36:58 42140093 Elf Agito Of course
17:37:00 42053268 Stealther dont track it
17:37:13 42140093 Elf Agito But on and off, how long have you been doing it?
17:37:23 42053268 Stealther
17:37:36 42140093 Elf Agito How long have you been playing on this server?
17:38:18 42053268 Stealther not sure i just logged int
17:38:27 42053268 Stealther lie 30 minues
17:38:55 42140093 Elf Agito Are my questions inconviniencing you? You seem bothered
17:39:05 42140093 Elf Agito Im sorry
17:39:06 42053268 Stealther
17:39:08 42053268 Stealther keep asking
17:39:21 42140093 Elf Agito I want to. But you dont answer
17:39:27 42053268 Stealther i was almost dead
17:39:47 42140093 Elf Agito Oh
17:40:00 42053268 Stealther k keep asking
17:40:15 42140093 Elf Agito I already did
17:40:23 42140093 Elf Agito But you didnt answer yet
17:40:32 42053268 Stealther i didn't see the queston i missed
17:40:47 42140093 Elf Agito I asked, How long have you been on this server
17:40:58 42053268 Stealther i answered. I sai d abot 30 minutes
17:41:52 42140093 Elf Agito You join Ephinea 30 minutes ago?
17:42:07 42053268 Stealther no i began maye 2 yeas ago
17:42:23 42140093 Elf Agito So, you have been playing here for 2 years
17:42:39 42053268 Stealther that would be the logical answer to my answer
17:42:55 42140093 Elf Agito Wow, that is a LOT of helping others you have done
17:43:17 42140093 Elf Agito Did you do that on the Japanese Ship as well?
17:43:18 42053268 Stealther and more helpig to go
17:43:21 42053268 Stealther no
17:43:31 42053268 Stealther should I?
17:43:33 42140093 Elf Agito You never go there to help?
17:43:49 42053268 Stealther should I?
17:43:59 42140093 Elf Agito I cannot speak for you
17:44:06 42053268 Stealther but u can speak for yourself
17:44:12 42140093 Elf Agito You must think for yourself what you should do
17:44:22 42053268 Stealther i do and i seek consel from you
17:44:34 42140093 Elf Agito I cannot consel you on that
17:44:41 42140093 Elf Agito But
17:44:55 42140093 Elf Agito I have been to the Japanese ship, and I have observed
17:45:17 42140093 Elf Agito I saw that like in the US ship, there are a LOT
17:45:27 42140093 Elf Agito Of locked rooms
17:45:41 42140093 Elf Agito And I am VERYYY curious why that happens
17:45:52 42053268 Stealther I cannot answe that query
17:46:02 42140093 Elf Agito In a game where I assume, most players are veterans
17:46:11 42140093 Elf Agito Who know the game VERY well
17:46:38 42140093 Elf Agito Why do you think everyone is moving away from open games
17:46:47 42053268 Stealther Im not sre
17:46:58 42053268 Stealther I wish peoplespoke more in games
17:47:07 42140093 Elf Agito Realy? You must have a better idea than me. You have been
17:47:10 42053268 Stealther mic are a thing of th past now
17:47:16 42140093 Elf Agito Here for two years
17:47:21 42053268 Stealther not regularly
17:47:33 42140093 Elf Agito Do you think that something like harrassment could be
17:47:39 42053268 Stealther i stopped playing for lke 2 yaers
17:47:43 42053268 Stealther just came back
17:47:43 42140093 Elf Agito Causing this?
17:47:46 42053268 Stealther it could e
17:48:13 42140093 Elf Agito If that is that case, do you think that is bad thing to do?
17:48:27 42053268 Stealther To have more open games?
17:48:30 42140093 Elf Agito I mean, harrass people and force things on them
17:48:41 42053268 Stealther no that is not something to do
17:48:43 42140093 Elf Agito Until they close themselves up
17:49:05 42140093 Elf Agito If you think that, you are a good person
17:49:16 42053268 Stealther why/?
17:49:40 42140093 Elf Agito Why do I think you are a good person, if you think that
17:49:56 42140093 Elf Agito harrassing people and forcing things on them is bad?
17:50:15 42053268 Stealther I wasn't sre wht else u were usng to surmis my whole character as good
17:50:28 42140093 Elf Agito Nothing else
17:50:37 42140093 Elf Agito And I didnt surmise
17:50:48 42140093 Elf Agito I meant just on this one question
17:50:58 42140093 Elf Agito I dont know anything else about you
17:52:09 42140093 Elf Agito Is this the first time you join my room today?
17:52:18 42053268 Stealther I dont know.
17:52:29 42053268 Stealther I've join many room and can't guarantee if they wer urs or not
17:52:34 42140093 Elf Agito My room always had the same name
17:52:43 42053268 Stealther Then yes this is he first tme
17:54:58 42053268 Stealther Sounds fun
17:55:05 42140093 Elf Agito What does?
17:55:13 42053268 Stealther what u said
17:55:13 42140093 Elf Agito Locked rooms?
17:55:22 42053268 Stealther no about helping people
17:55:33 42140093 Elf Agito I didnt say anything about that
17:55:38 42140093 Elf Agito You did
17:56:19 42053268 Stealther right
17:56:20 42053268 Stealther what was it hinking
17:56:20 42053268 Stealther I jut a NPC
17:56:20 42140093 Elf Agito Did you come here to help me?
17:56:26 42053268 Stealther Perhaps
17:56:32 42053268 Stealther Do u want to be helped
17:56:52 42140093 Elf Agito What do you think? Do you think I want to be helped?
17:57:09 42053268 Stealther I can't consel you on what you think
17:57:11 42140093 Elf Agito I mean, right now
17:57:29 42140093 Elf Agito But you do know what I think
17:57:37 42053268 Stealther Not fully
17:58:02 42053268 Stealther Do u want to be helped?
17:58:37 42140093 Elf Agito Do you want to force me to be helped if I dont want help?
17:58:58 42053268 Stealther Do you want to be forced into something you dont want to do?
17:59:17 42140093 Elf Agito Im 42 years old with a wife and daughter by the way
17:59:33 42053268 Stealther Oh, nice.
17:59:38 42140093 Elf Agito How old are you?
17:59:56 42053268 Stealther Do you want to be forced into something you dont want to do
18:00:12 42140093 Elf Agito Is that what people usually want?
18:00:23 42140093 Elf Agito Is that why you are here now?
18:00:26 42053268 Stealther I haven't asked most people so cant say yes or no
18:00:33 42140093 Elf Agito Is that you perception f life and peope?
18:00:50 42053268 Stealther No
18:00:55 42140093 Elf Agito Really? You are actually confused on this?
18:01:03 42053268 Stealther am not confused
18:01:06 42140093 Elf Agito You are unsure if peope want to be forced into doing
18:01:15 42140093 Elf Agito Something?
18:01:20 42053268 Stealther Still wonderng if u wanted to be forced into being helped?
18:01:22 42140093 Elf Agito Interesting
18:02:04 42140093 Elf Agito Is that your true self in real life?
18:02:16 42140093 Elf Agito Do you ask these types of question to people?
18:02:24 42140093 Elf Agito I mean face to face
18:02:42 42140093 Elf Agito Or is it more of an internet thing
18:02:56 42053268 Stealther I'm the mayor of NYC, i have to force people to be helped for the cold wea
18:03:04 42053268 Stealther weather
18:03:06 42140093 Elf Agito Interesting
18:03:11 42053268 Stealther Interesting
18:03:14 42140093 Elf Agito Its interesting that you say that
18:03:24 42053268 Stealther Its interesting that you found it interesting
18:03:27 42140093 Elf Agito Becase now Im wondering if others things you said were
18:03:34 42140093 Elf Agito true
18:03:41 42140093 Elf Agito Such as your origins
18:03:42 42053268 Stealther What does it matter?
18:03:51 42140093 Elf Agito Im just curious
18:03:57 42053268 Stealther Why?
18:04:00 42140093 Elf Agito It matters becase you are here
18:04:05 42053268 Stealther Oh ok
18:04:18 42140093 Elf Agito Are you actully originally from western Europe?
18:04:19 42053268 Stealther What is ur purpose
18:04:40 42140093 Elf Agito Maybe Britain?
18:05:00 42140093 Elf Agito Just a guess
18:05:18 42140093 Elf Agito Why did you leave and return?
18:05:35 42053268 Stealther Because I wanted to check somtehing
18:05:38 42140093 Elf Agito Something wrong with your game?
18:05:44 42140093 Elf Agito Oh
18:05:53 42140093 Elf Agito What did you want to check?
18:06:12 42053268 Stealther To ssee if smeone made a room caled Yes Carry
18:06:23 42140093 Elf Agito Another lie?
18:06:35 42053268 Stealther Perha[s
18:06:39 42140093 Elf Agito You didnt have time to check all that. You returned very fas
18:06:54 42053268 Stealther I did have time, I can scroll fast
18:06:59 42140093 Elf Agito Cool
18:07:13 42140093 Elf Agito Did you learn that in your job as NY mayor?
18:07:37 42053268 Stealther How many more questions would u like answered
18:07:45 42053268 Stealther can I have a Spead Needle?
18:07:46 42140093 Elf Agito Im sorry
18:07:54 42140093 Elf Agito I dont have one
18:08:10 42053268 Stealther How many gigabytes of data do u store
18:08:38 42053268 Stealther lets play for 30 seconds and then resume the interrogation
18:08:49 42053268 Stealther follow me
18:08:56 42140093 Elf Agito Interrogation!? Did I make you feel that way?
18:08:59 42053268 Stealther oh ur not following me?
18:09:05 42053268 Stealther did I say somehng wrong
18:09:25 42140093 Elf Agito Was it an order, for me to follow you?
18:09:26 42053268 Stealther I'm sorry.
18:09:32 42053268 Stealther It was a request
18:09:34 42140093 Elf Agito I thought it was a question
18:09:54 42053268 Stealther I am not Lelouche
18:09:58 42140093 Elf Agito DId I make you fee interrogated?
18:10:05 42140093 Elf Agito Are you sure?
18:10:18 42053268 Stealther I dont have the Code Geass
18:10:58 42053268 Stealther I'll follow ur lead
18:11:03 42053268 Stealther go ahead
18:11:20 42140093 Elf Agito Im taking a break
18:11:27 42053268 Stealther for how long?
18:11:37 42140093 Elf Agito I wanted to talk while. But you felt interrogated
18:11:50 42140093 Elf Agito Sorry about that
18:11:53 42053268 Stealther do u think interrogate was te right word?
18:12:00 42140093 Elf Agito I wont ask you anymore questions
18:12:32 42053268 Stealther I'm going on break
18:13:19 42053268 Stealther I wish I had n AI like you
18:13:40 42053268 Stealther You can resume asking me questions
18:13:48 42140093 Elf Agito Oh thank you
18:14:01 42140093 Elf Agito I shall do just that then, as long as you dont feel bad
18:14:14 42053268 Stealther So lets play for 30 seconds
18:14:19 42053268 Stealther Are you fine with that
18:14:33 42140093 Elf Agito So, my next question is about my title
18:14:48 42053268 Stealther I will call u brainaic
18:15:10 42053268 Stealther Its me again
18:15:42 42140093 Elf Agito This is the 4rd time you leave and return
18:15:54 42053268 Stealther Is it ?
18:16:05 42140093 Elf Agito Yea. And now its the 5
18:16:11 42140093 Elf Agito No 6?
18:16:17 42053268 Stealther How many times shuld i do it
18:16:30 42140093 Elf Agito As many as you would like to be remembered
18:17:24 42053268 Stealther y ar eu not speaking
18:17:27 42140093 Elf Agito I thin thats 10 times now
18:17:34 42140093 Elf Agito No more?
18:17:42 42053268 Stealther how many times shuld I do it
18:17:53 42140093 Elf Agito As long as you think its appropiate
18:18:07 42053268 Stealther I think I'll do it about 100 tmes
18:18:39 42053268 Stealther ?
18:18:50 42053268 Stealther ?
18:19:01 42053268 Stealther ?
18:19:14 42053268 Stealther ?
18:19:28 42053268 Stealther ?
18:20:28 42140093 Elf Agito Everytime you come back, you type the question mark
18:20:29 42053268 Stealther hI
18:20:37 42053268 Stealther I dont
18:20:44 42053268 Stealther I smetimes say other thins
18:20:48 42140093 Elf Agito Yes
18:21:02 42053268 Stealther .
18:21:14 42053268 Stealther ,
18:21:25 42140093 Elf Agito Is that the 30 time you did this?
18:21:25 42053268 Stealther l
18:21:32 42053268 Stealther Is it ?
18:21:42 42140093 Elf Agito I dont know. You keep spamming too fast
18:21:49 42053268 Stealther should I spam slower?
18:22:12 42140093 Elf Agito As fast or slow as accoding with your morals its appropriate
18:22:24 42053268 Stealther this is amoral topic
18:22:29 42140093 Elf Agito Not realy
18:22:33 42053268 Stealther how so?
18:22:34 42140093 Elf Agito No such thing exists
18:23:29 42140093 Elf Agito Do you believe that leaving and entering the room is
18:23:37 42053268 Stealther is what?
18:23:45 42140093 Elf Agito Unreated with morality/respect?
18:23:57 42053268 Stealther Yes, do you tink it is, if so then why?
18:24:14 42140093 Elf Agito Really? Does that mean you often do these type of thing
18:24:22 42053268 Stealther no it does not mean that
18:24:23 42140093 Elf Agito To others in this server?
18:24:31 42053268 Stealther do u think its moral?
18:24:33 42140093 Elf Agito Why are yo didgin now?
18:24:40 42053268 Stealther am not doing it now
18:24:42 42140093 Elf Agito Dont dodge
18:24:46 42140093 Elf Agito Yes you are
18:24:52 42053268 Stealther When was the last time I left?
18:24:58 42140093 Elf Agito Why do you dodge when you feel pressure?
18:25:16 42053268 Stealther I only feel 0 Psi
18:25:19 42140093 Elf Agito Do you usually do these type of things to others or not?
18:25:36 42140093 Elf Agito Two years on the server right?
18:25:44 42053268 Stealther cumatively
18:25:47 42053268 Stealther not consecutively
18:25:54 42140093 Elf Agito So you say
18:26:05 42140093 Elf Agito So?
18:26:09 42053268 Stealther ?
18:26:25 42140093 Elf Agito Do you do these type of things to others on the server?
18:26:36 42140093 Elf Agito Stop dodging please
18:26:47 42053268 Stealther I am not doging, my evade is just really high
18:27:04 42053268 Stealther Do i do it
18:27:15 42053268 Stealther I dont recall dong it on other servrs
18:27:48 42140093 Elf Agito So basicaly you just indirectly addmited that you do it here
18:28:03 42140093 Elf Agito On this server
18:28:14 42053268 Stealther I guess so that would be logically correc
18:28:22 42053268 Stealther does it boter you?
18:28:24 42140093 Elf Agito What other unrelated things(accoring to you) to morality
18:28:47 42140093 Elf Agito Do you do to others on this server?
18:28:52 42053268 Stealther Does it bother you?
18:29:11 42140093 Elf Agito Well?
18:29:18 42053268 Stealther Does it bother you?
18:29:32 42140093 Elf Agito What?
18:29:40 42140093 Elf Agito Be especific
18:29:49 42140093 Elf Agito To broad question
18:29:52 42053268 Stealther Me spammingly fastly that I am leavig an comig
18:30:05 42140093 Elf Agito To me or to others?
18:30:12 42053268 Stealther You
18:30:23 42053268 Stealther I'll stop if it boters oyou
18:30:49 42140093 Elf Agito Is that what you say to others you do this type of thing to?
18:31:02 42140093 Elf Agito If it bothers you I will stop
18:31:03 42053268 Stealther Is that what you think I say when I do to oters?
18:31:33 42140093 Elf Agito My guess is no. because most people would react in a differe
18:31:40 42140093 Elf Agito way
18:31:44 42140093 Elf Agito I think
18:31:44 42053268 Stealther Does it bother you?
18:31:54 42140093 Elf Agito That you do it to others?
18:31:59 42053268 Stealther that I did it to you
18:32:08 42140093 Elf Agito You are really determined by whater you came for
18:32:17 42140093 Elf Agito You walked all the way here
18:32:22 42053268 Stealther ran*
18:32:27 42140093 Elf Agito What are you motivated by?
18:32:41 42053268 Stealther Why do I persist?
18:32:44 42140093 Elf Agito Justice? Injustice?
18:32:53 42140093 Elf Agito Or something else?
18:33:00 42053268 Stealther Why do I persist?
18:33:18 42140093 Elf Agito You clearly have negative motivations which you work hard
18:33:24 42053268 Stealther Why do I persist?
18:33:27 42140093 Elf Agito To hide. But have addmited to
18:33:41 42140093 Elf Agito Now Im asking you, what is your motivation
18:33:52 42053268 Stealther You can call me Mr. Anderson
18:33:57 42140093 Elf Agito I mean, we have been here for maybe over 30 minutes
18:34:19 42053268 Stealther Because I choose to.
18:34:31 42140093 Elf Agito And I have been speaking, instead of playing
18:34:40 42053268 Stealther I force you to do that?
18:34:42 42140093 Elf Agito Yes, clearly. Because you chose to
18:34:52 42140093 Elf Agito The question is why did you chose to
18:35:08 42140093 Elf Agito Thats what motivation means
18:35:08 42053268 Stealther Sorry Agent Smith you dont get to ask that
18:35:25 42140093 Elf Agito You mean, you want to hide your motivations?
18:35:36 42053268 Stealther WHY WHY WHY
18:35:38 42053268 Stealther WHY DO YOU PERSIST
18:35:44 42053268 Stealther MR ANDR
18:35:55 42140093 Elf Agito Is it because you are asshamed of them or?
18:36:08 42053268 Stealther Why mr anderson DO YOU PERSIST?!
18:37:04 42140093 Elf Agito You have a lot of free time
18:37:10 42140093 Elf Agito Do you work?
18:37:17 42053268 Stealther My time is not free
18:37:25 42053268 Stealther I am always working
18:37:38 42140093 Elf Agito Are you working now?
18:37:40 42053268 Stealther You seem to not have any time to play
18:37:49 42053268 Stealther Why dont you want to play
18:38:03 42140093 Elf Agito I have time to play. Not much. But I have. Like today
18:38:18 42053268 Stealther Do you think ur using you ytime wisely?
18:38:25 42140093 Elf Agito Not that I have been playing for the last.. 40 minutes?
18:38:37 42140093 Elf Agito Since I have a mesterious guest
18:38:45 42053268 Stealther I'm not mysterious at all
18:39:00 42140093 Elf Agito Well... you keep your motivations secrete
18:39:11 42053268 Stealther I am the hope of the universe.
18:39:18 42053268 Stealther am te answer to all living thngs that cry out fr pace
18:39:18 42140093 Elf Agito Clearly you have a problem with this room
18:39:25 42053268 Stealther am protector of the innoectn
18:39:29 42053268 Stealther am the lght in te darkness.
18:39:32 42053268 Stealther AM TRUTH
18:39:41 42053268 Stealther ALL TO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD, MIGHTMARE TO YOU
18:39:50 42140093 Elf Agito Are you single?
18:39:55 42053268 Stealther I am double
18:40:04 42140093 Elf Agito Okay
18:40:08 42053268 Stealther Ok
18:40:11 42140093 Elf Agito You will not talk normally anymore
18:40:26 42053268 Stealther Are you commanding me to not tak normally anymore?
18:40:42 42140093 Elf Agito If I remake my room, are you going to rejoin and do the
18:40:50 42053268 Stealther do you want me to?
18:40:51 42140093 Elf Agito Same thing again?
18:41:07 42140093 Elf Agito Answer the question directly. Stop dodging
18:41:25 42053268 Stealther My actions are dictated by your answers
18:41:31 42140093 Elf Agito Really?
18:41:46 42140093 Elf Agito Does my room bother you the same way Chine bothered
18:41:49 42053268 Stealther If u want me to stop, I will
18:42:15 42140093 Elf Agito The United Kingdom when they refusd to open up the UK?
18:42:40 42140093 Elf Agito China*
18:43:11 42140093 Elf Agito I didnt type it well, let me try again
18:43:25 42140093 Elf Agito Does my room bother you, the same way that China
18:43:41 42140093 Elf Agito bothered the UK, when China refused to trade with them
18:43:50 42140093 Elf Agito before the Opium war?
18:44:05 42140093 Elf Agito Is that whats bothering you mr Britain?
18:45:01 42140093 Elf Agito No answer?
18:45:19 42140093 Elf Agito Why did you go silent? You are moving, but silent
18:45:19 42053268 Stealther I lost the ability to type
18:45:37 42140093 Elf Agito You dont know history? Im sorry
18:45:43 42053268 Stealther Don't be sorry.
18:45:47 42140093 Elf Agito Shall I tell you the details?
18:46:58 42140093 Elf Agito If you came here with negative intentions, could
18:47:05 42140093 Elf Agito you leave?
18:47:12 42140093 Elf Agito I want to play
18:47:26 42140093 Elf Agito And I have not been for the past 40 minutes of you
18:47:35 42140093 Elf Agito Esentially trolling the room
18:47:57 42140093 Elf Agito You are moving
18:48:02 42140093 Elf Agito But not typing
18:48:15 42053268 Stealther You are moving and typing
18:48:24 42140093 Elf Agito Not. Im standing still
18:48:45 42140093 Elf Agito Have you done this kind of thing to many others?
18:48:53 42053268 Stealther Don't doge
18:49:04 42140093 Elf Agito Or do you have a especial feeling towards my room?
18:49:18 42053268 Stealther This is your room?
18:49:19 42140093 Elf Agito I know I dont know you from anywhere else
18:49:26 42140093 Elf Agito Yes
18:49:36 42140093 Elf Agito And I started playing here only a few days ago
18:49:44 42140093 Elf Agito So we dont have a history
18:49:49 42053268 Stealther Wow you've progress so well
18:50:06 42140093 Elf Agito So i wonder if you do this to many other peope in two
18:50:15 42140093 Elf Agito years you played here
18:50:27 42140093 Elf Agito Well?
18:51:09 42140093 Elf Agito You again move, but dont answer. Yet I wait
18:51:20 42053268 Stealther I am groot
18:51:45 42140093 Elf Agito Are you male or female?
18:51:52 42053268 Stealther I am groot
18:52:04 42140093 Elf Agito I assume male. But not sure
18:52:28 42140093 Elf Agito If I leave my own room will you be hapy then?
18:52:35 42053268 Stealther I dont feel emotions
18:52:41 42140093 Elf Agito Realy
18:52:47 42053268 Stealther am groot
18:52:53 42140093 Elf Agito You really are trying hard to hide your purpose
18:53:05 42140093 Elf Agito Is this efficient?
18:53:17 42140093 Elf Agito What good will this do?
18:53:38 42140093 Elf Agito I mean, this force
18:53:45 42140093 Elf Agito This forcing
18:54:29 42140093 Elf Agito Well... you leave me no other choice
18:54:35 42053268 Stealther I am forcing you?
18:54:37 42140093 Elf Agito I dont understand this at all
18:54:49 42140093 Elf Agito I tried everything I could in these last one hour
18:54:59 42140093 Elf Agito One hour of my free time to play in the weekend
18:55:07 42140093 Elf Agito To openly understand you
18:55:15 42053268 Stealther You decided to no play and talk
18:55:18 42140093 Elf Agito And see what your intentions are
18:55:26 42140093 Elf Agito And if am I doing something wrong
18:55:39 42140093 Elf Agito But your behaviour doesnt shed any light
18:55:53 42140093 Elf Agito So I will post this on discord or forum, and ask there
18:56:00 42140093 Elf Agito What is this all about
18:56:08 42053268 Stealther You should play
18:56:12 42140093 Elf Agito And if this is related to soooo many closed up rooms
18:56:20 42053268 Stealther I am here to help.
18:56:24 42140093 Elf Agito I see more than half rooms closed
18:56:32 42053268 Stealther Do you want to play by yourself?
18:56:36 42140093 Elf Agito In the Japanese ship its nearly 100%
18:56:48 42053268 Stealther Do you want to play with others?
18:56:51 42140093 Elf Agito NO, I dont. Thats why my room is public
18:57:08 42053268 Stealther Wait, you want to play alone or with others?
18:57:12 42140093 Elf Agito Am I going to learn a lesson that I cannot pay with others?
18:57:24 42140093 Elf Agito Is that my lesson here?
18:57:34 42053268 Stealther I am not trying to teach anything
18:57:41 42140093 Elf Agito That I have to join the majority of payers in putting pass
18:57:50 42140093 Elf Agito on all my rooms and play alone?
18:58:01 42053268 Stealther Would you like to play by youself
18:58:06 42140093 Elf Agito NO
18:58:11 42053268 Stealther ok, so lets play
18:58:16 42140093 Elf Agito But maybe I have to
18:58:29 42053268 Stealther Should I leave?
18:58:33 42140093 Elf Agito Are you joking? You dont see what you did to my room?
18:58:40 42053268 Stealther What did I do?
18:58:46 42140093 Elf Agito You dont know?
18:58:53 42053268 Stealther I am asking because I don't know.
18:58:59 42140093 Elf Agito Keep playing dumb and dodging... alright alright
18:59:05 42140093 Elf Agito I give up man
18:59:10 42053268 Stealther ... dont gie up
18:59:12 42140093 Elf Agito I will seek answers elsewhere
18:59:20 42053268 Stealther lets finish the map
18:59:27 42140093 Elf Agito I assume chat still works like in past and its saved in
18:59:40 42140093 Elf Agito the game folder. I will ask the community, wtf is this
Mew will read moar into this juicy 'Novel' later, but had a GIGGLE moment with " No im a colonizer from america". Every 4th of July, mew had affectionately reffurred it as "Happy UNGRATEFUL Colonists Day!". X'D!

But yeah, "No Carry" is universally known as a room who DON'T Desire to be overly assisted or "Carried" through their rite of passage 'grind'. Can't tell you HOW many rooms mew had been politely Kicked OUT of~! X'D!! It hurts, but you Need to RESPECT the warrior's Pride one gets of doing things on their own, right? <3.
 
Thank you for the answers.

I have more questions, for the sake of deciding how to proceed in the future.
In her post Harborer of Hope mentions that there are others like me. Are their wishes usually respected? Or do they often face situations like mine?

The judgement was that, there was no rule breaking, and actually it is viewed as both parties acting strange, in what lasted around 1 hour and half and resulted in a room which ultimately came to an end, before completing the run. Its obvious, but I will ask anyway.. this does mean that regardless of how many times this kind of situation without rule breaking repeats itself, either by the same player or other players, the judgement and outcome will remain the same right? Obviously... sorry, forget it. It was a ridiculous question

My opinion is formed. My last question is of curiosity of others perspective. I have noticed, that there are a lot of rooms which are either closed behind a password, or rooms of people choosing to play solo. On the US ship is something like 70%? maybe 80%? or more? I think, usually, and in the Japanese ship I saw nearly 100% closed rooms. I have a theory, based on what ive seen thus far, based on my life experience growing up in the western world, and past experience playing PSO on private western servers. My question to the community is, in your experience do you think that there is any possibility, that NOT ALL, but some, of these rooms maybe closed, because even though those players really want to play with others publicly, they have been pushed into isolation, because that is the only way they can enforce their freedom to play the game, the way they want, and without being inconvenienced?
 
Hey Elf it’s Millions / Euro . I helped you by grabbing all the spell in green shop I could ahha. I don’t see the conversation that took place , but this is how I look at it.

No matter which game we play, we are communicating with people, and how we phrase things are unique to how we grow up. our primary / secondary language, and our vocabulary. This game uses mainly acronyms online for as long as I can recall online .

So if you are wondering on what to name the rooms , like i saw your room “no carry” and was going to join , but i only play my main and didn’t join cause I thought that was a carry . But maybe you meant something else. I would type like a phrase to describe the max level you want within the quest . Like in very hard name it , “Below lvl80” or something . It is a clearer way . But I didn’t see the conversation so I don’t understand that part , hope this helps any , will cya in game soon hopefully !
 
Thank you for the answers.

I have more questions, for the sake of deciding how to proceed in the future.
In her post Harborer of Hope mentions that there are others like me. Are their wishes usually respected? Or do they often face situations like mine?

The judgement was that, there was no rule breaking, and actually it is viewed as both parties acting strange, in what lasted around 1 hour and half and resulted in a room which ultimately came to an end, before completing the run. Its obvious, but I will ask anyway.. this does mean that regardless of how many times this kind of situation without rule breaking repeats itself, either by the same player or other players, the judgement and outcome will remain the same right? Obviously... sorry, forget it. It was a ridiculous question

My opinion is formed. My last question is of curiosity of others perspective. I have noticed, that there are a lot of rooms which are either closed behind a password, or rooms of people choosing to play solo. On the US ship is something like 70%? maybe 80%? or more? I think, usually, and in the Japanese ship I saw nearly 100% closed rooms. I have a theory, based on what ive seen thus far, based on my life experience growing up in the western world, and past experience playing PSO on private western servers. My question to the community is, in your experience do you think that there is any possibility, that NOT ALL, but some, of these rooms maybe closed, because even though those players really want to play with others publicly, they have been pushed into isolation, because that is the only way they can enforce their freedom to play the game, the way they want, and without being inconvenienced?
I think this is definitely a one-off case where someone just decided to have some fun at your expense. I would not be surprised if they knew exactly what the room name meant and just decided to cause a spot of trouble anyway. Won't pry into that further though.

I mainly wanted to just say that the community here generally are very welcoming and respectful when it comes to things like this. FO/DP games generally will not have non-FO/DP players join, but even if they do normally it's resolved pretty quickly and nicely with a good ol' chat just explaining what's up (or in one instance we still actually went ahead with the quest and although the poor soul had a harrowing time because it was an Anguish game, the point is that the community generally won't act like that person did in your conversation!).

I would hazard a guess that a lot of locked games are just people either playing with friends (I do this a lot when playing with an IRL friend of mine) or maybe just want to play on their own as you mentioned but not because they have been shunted out due to people acting in bad faith or whatever.

TL;DR - this person is whack as heck, don't let them paint a picture that the community acts out like that and yeah perhaps just make the game name a bit clearer to avoid confusion (but honestly i imagine most people would be fine to then leave once they know)
 
Thank you Ryan for recognizing the "strangeness" of the conversation and just basically leave it at that without having to bring me down like ZEUS did. As you saw it was weird on both side and didn't per se "take sides" I regularly go to lower level rooms to help people level up. because I believe in giving back

I came in here to clear up a few things and to defend any "Slander" such as this person is "whack as heck" because I honestly take that as huge disrespect. It is a core shot at what I stand for. I did in fact did not know what No Carry meant, and what confirmed what I thought it was was, when I saw him, he had a sword. So I thought he meant no guns or hand 2 hand. He starts asking some questions that I thought were a bit weird, but I went along with it. Maybe he's trying to learn my culture or something

I began thinking it was AI I was speaking to around this mark
17:25:44 42140093 Elf Agito What is that?

As the conversation progress I was considering if I was talking to some AI or not. I was truthful in what I said about helping players. That what I like to do, anyways I decided to play and kill some monsters in the game as he's asking questions

and he asks me some questions but I couldn't answer because
"17:39:27 42053268 Stealther i was almost dead"

I came back to where i left him and he is still asking questions but stops. His character moved in what I thought was a pattern so that the computer doesn't think he went AFK. So thought maybe it needed to stop talking for a bit He walked like 6 feet and then stopped, periodically. So I am now like really convinced this was AI, but then again I still was not sure, but I was leaning on the, this must be some sort of bot speaking to me. He is asking strange question. Talking about my moral and questioning it. I liken this conversation to Matrix because that how I thought it felt like I mentioned Goku's speech because that somewhat of my role model or whatever.

I even wrote it here that I thought he was AI, just in case he would say he isn't AI. He literally stops taking until I say you can resume asking me question. SO I was 100% sure ok this must be an AI. but to test him I said lets play for 30 seconds, to see if he can actually move and follow me and what not, like a real person, because again benefit of the doubt.

18:13:19 42053268 Stealther I wish I had n AI like you
18:13:40 42053268 Stealther You can resume asking me questions
18:13:48 42140093 Elf Agito Oh thank you
18:14:01 42140093 Elf Agito I shall do just that then, as long as you dont feel bad
18:14:14 42053268 Stealther So lets play for 30 seconds
18:14:19 42053268 Stealther Are you fine with that




18:52:53 42140093 Elf Agito You really are trying hard to hide your purpose

I literally have no IDEA WHAT he meant, as I stated my purpose. To help. So i was so confused and again this is confirming to me that I may be speaking to a AI because they tend to forget previously said information. So every time I think it is may a real person, I get what I think is a sign that this is a bot or something and I thought it was made to be antogonistic. But in the off chance that I was wrong I kept asking certain questions.





Anyways
18:43:25 42140093 Elf Agito Does my room bother you, the same way that China
18:43:41 42140093 Elf Agito bothered the UK, when China refused to trade with them
18:43:50 42140093 Elf Agito before the Opium war?


?? Again I am quite confused at this line of questioning, so I am just saying this must be a bot. and damn good one because he can see that I am moving and can remembers how many times I've came in the room. I was really amazed"








18:40:11 42140093 Elf Agito You will not talk normally anymore
18:40:26 42053268 Stealther Are you commanding me to not talk normally anymore?
18:40:42 42140093 Elf Agito If I remake my room, are you going to rejoin and do the
18:40:50 42053268 Stealther do you want me to?

But in the off change I was wrong I asked direct questions and he did not respond to it.
When I said, do you want me to, - I was again questioning is this a real person, if it is, then this'll be their chance to like really say yes or no.
or something. But at the same time I thought he was trying to troll me.





18:56:48 42053268 Stealther Do you want to play with others?

He then said
18:56:51 42140093 Elf Agito NO, I dont. Thats why my room is public

Which made no sense to me, So I thought ok....this must be an AI or something I myself was VERY confused. Like the most confused every.
"Why would you want to play by yourself but make it public." - So boom..it must be a bot or something that got tripped up on his response.





He mention things like force or order or something to that effect so I am thinking Code Geass and made a reference to it. Seeing if he'll pick up on it.




The moment I thought he may in fact be a real person rather than AI was this part of the conversation
18:52:53 42140093 Elf Agito You really are trying hard to hide your purpose
18:53:05 42140093 Elf Agito Is this efficient?
18:53:17 42140093 Elf Agito What good will this do?
18:53:38 42140093 Elf Agito I mean, this force
18:53:45 42140093 Elf Agito This forcing
18:54:29 42140093 Elf Agito Well... you leave me no other choice
18:54:35 42053268 Stealther I am forcing you?
18:54:37 42140093 Elf Agito I dont understand this at all
18:54:49 42140093 Elf Agito I tried everything I could in these last one hour
18:54:59 42140093 Elf Agito One hour of my free time to play in the weekend
18:55:07 42140093 Elf Agito To openly understand you

There I noticed real frustration like a human.
From there it slowly turn to Oh, this may be a real person, but maybe he's testing a AI response or something. But because the conversation went on for long and he kept responding, like an AI would. I didn't think it weird that 40 minutes has passed. Because I wasn't not forcing him, he didn't attempt to play when I was there so I figured ok..i guess this is AI. But then again because I am doubting but less now. and to give him a chance to dictate what will happen going forward, if he wants me to leave I will, if he wants me to stay I will. because now I am getting bored myself.

So I began to ask targeted questions

18:58:40 42053268 Stealther What did I do?
18:58:29 42053268 Stealther Should I leave?
18:58:11 42053268 Stealther ok, so lets play
18:58:01 42053268 Stealther Would you like to play by youself
18:57:34 42053268 Stealther I am not trying to teach anything


Anyways I said this
18:59:20 42053268 Stealther lets finish the map
and he said what he said and left
and then I was like hmm, man wow I am so confused, that may have in fact been a real person,





LOL I get recognized in the lobby about this post and I explained it. I told them if u see him again tell him I am sorry.
I saw this post and was not going to respond and let it be. I wrote in the chatroom board " I AM sorry GITO" just in case he sees it.
I was looking for him for a few days to say sorry, because I understood he felt bad. but couldn't find him.







but today I saw his room and the first thing I said when I walked in was I AM SORRY, because 1) I know now this is a real person I and feel bad that he felt a certain way, regardless of whos fault it was. I am sorry I was part of the interaction that resulted in that feeling.

11:27:02 Enter No Carry
11:27:08 42053268 Stealther I AM SORRY!
11:28:53 42053268 Stealther I thought you were AI or something. The way you were speaking.
11:29:38 42053268 Stealther I am not an jackass or water that guy said I was.

11:29:47 42117039 corona i,m Japn
11:29:53 42053268 Stealther aha oh hey


There is someone else in the room who speaks to me and he asks Gito
Can he join? (meaning me)


11:30:09 42117039 corona join ?
11:30:13 42053268 Stealther yes
11:30:23 42053268 Stealther Hai
11:30:33 42117039 corona Agit
11:30:39 42140093 Elf Agito Yes?
11:30:46 42117039 corona join ?
11:30:53 42140093 Elf Agito Who?

So now I think he blocked or something and he didn't see ANY of my messages, But come to find out, that isn't the case..
Anyways so I thought maybe we were ok or something, as he didn't object, I think when he said what he said (in japanese) to Corona. and mind you, now


11:31:13 42117039 corona stealther
11:31:13 42140093 Elf Agito Dare?
11:31:36 42140093 Elf Agito Wakaranai


I find them in MINES after he told me that is where they were at
about 10 minutes passed and I still felt a bit weird so I was like you know what lemme ask him directly,

11:43:42 42053268 Stealther Do you want me to stay?
11:43:58 42117039 corona brb
11:44:06 42053268 Stealther Agito
11:44:34 42053268 Stealther Agito?
11:44:46 42140093 Elf Agito Yes? I dont undertand
11:45:00 42053268 Stealther Do you want to stay in he room?
11:45:13 42140093 Elf Agito Me? Yes, I want to stay in the room
11:45:25 42053268 Stealther Do you want Stealter to stay in te room
11:45:47 42140093 Elf Agito Its your choice


I left.
because you know what, this passive aggressiveness that I felt and atmosphere was just weird and I dont want to be where I dont want to be wanted

I have really nothing more to say, this was a miscommunication and understood by Ryan ( him recognizing both of us were acting strange)
I don't like being called whack as heck. and "I think this is definitely a one-off case where someone just decided to have some fun at your expense" that is not true of my character. I only knew what No carry meant when I read this post. essentially, and had he explained what it meant, I think it would have gone a different way.

I would have stayed or left if I knew what it was, but because he didn't answer went off tangent, the conversation became what it became him trying to find my intent? and me wanting to help but confused as if this was a AI.

And the community of player are good generally until I play with a oversize character and get body shame and jokes about it, at first it was funny but now its a bit..annoying.. But the few doesn't represent the many.
Thank you and bye.



Here is the transcript.

11:27:02 Enter No Carry
11:27:08 42053268 Stealther I AM SORRY!
11:28:53 42053268 Stealther I thought you were AI or something. The way you were speaking.
11:29:38 42053268 Stealther I am not an jackass or water that guy said I was.
11:29:47 42117039 corona i,m Japn
11:29:53 42053268 Stealther aha oh hey
11:30:09 42117039 corona join ?
11:30:13 42053268 Stealther yes
11:30:23 42053268 Stealther Hai
11:30:33 42117039 corona Agit
11:30:39 42140093 Elf Agito Yes?
11:30:46 42117039 corona join ?
11:30:53 42140093 Elf Agito Who?
11:31:13 42117039 corona stealther
11:31:13 42140093 Elf Agito Dare?
11:31:36 42140093 Elf Agito Wakaranai
11:32:01 42117039 corona mines
11:33:36 42053268 Stealther Suminamsen, AI da to omotte imashita
11:34:09 42140093 Elf Agito Okay
11:35:58 42053268 Stealther Ato dehonto no hito kamo shirenai to kizuita node,
11:36:11 42089355 Benedetta tp?
11:36:23 42140093 Elf Agito red
11:36:25 42053268 Stealther shitsueri no nao yo ni shtiakka n desu. Moshi Yokerba watash wa haraeta ho
11:36:29 42053268 Stealther desu ka
11:37:21 42053268 Stealther NO KNo kyari no imi ga wakarimasen deshita
11:38:10 42053268 Stealther hen na shitsumon o sarete, shitsurei ni naritakunakatta n desu
11:38:20 42140093 Elf Agito im full. brb sell
11:38:52 42053268 Stealther You were asking me weird questons and I dind't want to be mean and say no
11:39:07 42053268 Stealther which is why I thought u were AI at frst
11:39:50 42053268 Stealther You weren't moving and you talked to me for like 40 minutes I thought u we
11:39:54 42053268 Stealther really a robt
11:40:43 42053268 Stealther I doest seem like English was your first langauge
11:43:42 42053268 Stealther Do you want me to stay?
11:43:58 42117039 corona brb
11:44:06 42053268 Stealther Agito
11:44:34 42053268 Stealther Agito?
11:44:46 42140093 Elf Agito Yes? I dont undertand
11:45:00 42053268 Stealther Do you want to stay in he room?
11:45:13 42140093 Elf Agito Me? Yes, I want to stay in the room
11:45:25 42053268 Stealther Do you want Stealter to stay in te room
11:45:47 42140093 Elf Agito Its your choice
 
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This made me remember something and do some research.
I thought to myself "Why didn't they just set the Minimum and Maximum level limits of the lobby?", but then realized that I've been playing on my Dreamcast lately too and might be misremembering which server has what commands and looked them up and compared them.

It turns out that the Sylverant server has commands for:
  • /minlvl level Set the minimum required level for the current team. The new level must be greater than or equal to the level required by the current difficulty setting. This command only affects new players who attempt to join the team and will not kick out anyone who is already in the team if their level is below the new minimum. This command is only available to the current team leader.
  • /maxlvl level Set the maximum allowed level for the current team. The new level must be greater than or equal to the minimum level for the team. This command only affects new players who attempt to join the team and will not kick out anyone who is already in the team if their level is above the new maximum. This command is only available to the current team leader.
But Ephinea doesn't.
Perhaps these settings could be looked into for preventing future incidents similar to this one. Just food for thought. '^.^ Have a wonderful day everyone! o/
 
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