Classic Mode, No forum section?

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How can I complain about the unorthodox changes that completely baffle my boggled mind. Blaaaahhhh

Oh well. Only wasted 4 hours grinding for Class Walls- Always enjoyed being slapped in the face because people cant list the things they change in full

Seriously, whoever is in charge of Classic, rethink it, talk to the community.
and seriously chill, relax, have fun with it- ITS A GAME.

This is my way of saying: I was having fun, and really enjoyed it. Till my experience was ruined, by MISSING CONTENT. Was it the Ranger Wall?? Was it REALLY that of an eye sore? Because I found out about this, Grinding for a Force wall. imagine the worst one.

And this isnt the only issue I had. but it's what pushed me to stop playing.

On and whats the point of an event at the END of a month???
 
Hiya, Usagi here aka the "Classic GM". You sound a bit entitled, maybe Ephinea just isn't for you.
I don't see how thats entitled.

You alter something and dont provide details and wates someone's time, I'm nerely trying to enjoy something and turns out its a complete sham. Picked and pulled apart and called something it isnt.

Every effort was made to reduce any EXP gain and certain items removed due to being too strong or something- hard to tell when theres no communication or notes.

"We made classic but not classic" dont cut it.

Played here for years, sooo if I'm the one in the wrong, it really speaks wonders for the direction of things.

and this is me being reserve for that very "yeah whatever idc" kind of response. Not a good representation.
 
aren't you the same guy who yelled about this in discord and immediately left the channel before anyone could respond

anyway theres no exp loss but i don't hear your anger there so you can hop off your hill and chill out
(or just hop outta here since you're losing your marbles over next to nothing)
 
I don't see how thats entitled.

You alter something and dont provide details and wates someone's time, I'm nerely trying to enjoy something and turns out its a complete sham. Picked and pulled apart and called something it isnt.

Every effort was made to reduce any EXP gain and certain items removed due to being too strong or something- hard to tell when theres no communication or notes.

"We made classic but not classic" dont cut it.

Played here for years, sooo if I'm the one in the wrong, it really speaks wonders for the direction of things.

and this is me being reserve for that very "yeah whatever idc" kind of response. Not a good representation.
You're the one without good representation, allow me to enlighten you on how to make a post us staff members (and the community as a whole) would take seriously.

"Hi, I'm player X and perhaps this was my fault but I have some concerns. I didn't see change X, Y and Z listed for Classic and it's been a bit disheartening. Could it be looked into that a page defining Classic more be made and or, perhaps a forum section? Also I'm no good at editing the wiki and I'm afraid to mess something up. Could a kind soul make a page about Classic's changes and or put that the class walls aren't available on classic? Thank you for your consideration"

But see, what you did is entitled; threatened a quit, saying you were slapped in the face, implying that we/I don't play or talk with the community, etc.

I'm sorry your experience was ruined, I truly am. But your rage fit is not the way to get a response from us aside from "yeah whatever idc" as you put it.
 
Threatened a Quit?
How would me staying or going matter?
I decided to stop playing, because the offered experience was not provided.

But How could I ask for consideration, when literally there's a stickied post citing "We don't take suggestions" now how should someone perceive that when they're already feeling like things aren't thoroughly thought of or thought to heavily upon?

here let me start over then, would that be more acceptable?

Hello, sorry for my prior correspondence. I was frustrated, and yes tired when I posted like a yammering manchild. I was hoping to find somewhere to provide my feedback but was left feeling dismissed by a stickied post refusing to accept any suggestions. So as it may, I'll just provide a clear feedback, from my experience up to this point for your consideration.

EXP steal, while it's been the way it is for some time, and I understand why- to circumvent RecoBoxing, it also destroys the intended function of the ability. resulting in a pointless ability. While infinite exp is rather excessive, limiting Exp steal to a single Kills rate is also undermining the purpose of even having it. We'd be better off adjusting it to regain it's meaning say- 2.5x the exp? Otherwise removing it altogether? A last resort could be EXP Charge, which uses EXP (like Meseta in Charge) to cause more damage, this could be based on "accumulating" exp, not total exp. Or based on total Exp so it scales with the progressed levels.
This been around for years, but isn't entirely an issue I have.

Smaller things, TTF being removed, means we cannot get rings. What alternatives could there be? Is it possible to enable quests with reduced rates of drops/exp to offset the scaled Exp? or Set Daily limits on a Quest?

The Shops, and other exchangeable items. The experience with the Class Walls left me concerned what if I start farming/grinding for another item, like say the Ragol RIng, but then after all my efforts, I find out it's been removed with no warning. I have no way to tell, and I don't want to waste my time.

Between finding ways to gruelling level, and ways to pass the time- Wasting that time is something I want to avoid, but have very little means on what to avoid.

My issue, in any game, is once I spend hours in it, all the sneaky little changes pop up out of nowhere, and POOF there goes the fun, and it's frustrating when it's avoidable things or little things.

I understand the Ranger Wall in this case could be considered OP, adding 20ata to a Ranger, but myself barely being in Ult, I have to grind another character for a God/Arm, that Ranger wall would have helped, but even then, all my weapons were equipable so I wasn't losing sleep over it.
But if the reason to remove it was because of the ATA bonus- then Remove the S-Parts for adding ATA as well in as equal fairness. All I'm saying. (Edit, stated crapload of ATP, I was thinking D-parts, edited)

Events.
It would be more appreciative to have events run sooner in the month, rather than at the last week. Even if rates are reduced, it gives people more incentive to play together. Which is something classic could really benefit from, and I was looking forward to it, but there was nothing till yesterday. Which, was kind of a let down, especially when no one at all could confidently say *when* the event was going to be. That was not pleasant to witness, sorry to say.

I do appreciate what you've all been doing, and I understand it isn't easy, but I couldn't find any input on what all changed in the Classic Mode and guesswork on things is hit or miss, I thought Seat of the heart was removed, but found out it wasnt after some questions and searching. But not everything is so crystal clear or easy to find out and that's where I request further communication. What are the minor differences, quest differences, and removed items. All I ask.




Sorry for being snippy, I have my reasons, and I tried not to be that way.
 
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Thank you for your message, I have a lot of respect for you going back and expressing your concerns. For that reason I will also happily apologize for my response leaving you feeling uncared for.

I do agree with some things, such as finding the minor changes in Classic a lot harder than the big changes. In account modes it does say "The original offline GameCube & Xbox experience has been restored", but no where does it mention that that also means the class walls aren't there and it is left up to the player to have known previously thats how the game was. The reason is not for being OP, which is why S Parts is still on Classic.

I will personally reach out to a few people who edit the wiki regularly and ask if they could be so kind as to note which non ep4 items aren't available on Classic; or I'll do it myself.

Any other concerns I am happy to hear about, sorry if "no suggestions" discouraged you from expressing concerns. We are just not looking for new mechanics and other such things, but concerns are always welcome and taken into consideration.
 
Thank you for taking the time to respond, and again I apologize for any possible hostility.


My experiences were on a prior server, that probably could be guessed by name just by reading this. And that was in 2006-2007. Only for an hour had I played on Official Sega, prior to shutdowns lol.

But never experienced the progressive experience, only offline GameCube, and Online content at it's end of life.

I know there's "some" people that like documenting history and progression of things, maybe someone could look deep and do a wiki page for "BB V1 to BB present", detailed or loosely, citing when things got added, could make it easier to determine a version mark, which could be pointed at as well. Just a thought

Thanks for informing me about the Walls, in hindsight, didn't know Sega added things to quests once they were already made, that's interesting.
 
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