Time Attack Topic (Normal Mode)

Discussion in 'General' started by Bagarozy, Jan 23, 2017.

  1. Bagarozy

    Bagarozy Brechstange DEluxe

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    This is the non-sandbox TA topic with updated rules (which may be subject to change). HC players may of course participate.

    This is to encourage players to run TA in Normal Mode. Any good effort can be rewarding. It's okay to use that HUmar and see what you can come up with.

    While Sandbox is a great option, some of us prefer the 'challenge' of Normal Mode TA with more realistic results. Printing Meseta for every attempt is beyond that.

    Rules:

    - Must be done on Ephinea Server.
    - Please show videos, or pictures that show proof of your completion. Ultimate only. No cheating.
    - Any submitted records must come with some form of proof. This can include either a screenshot or video.
    - For quests with no obvious banners/terminals/NPCs indicating clear time or that the quest is cleared, the time displayed after the last enemy has been defeated is the clear time.
    - For 2 player games, both players must be in the red and green player slots.
    - Having a player leave during a quest is not allowed.
    - You cannot spawn the enemies before you activate the machine in Maximum Attack.

    - You cannot modify your status, such as lowering HP, casting SD, poisoning yourself, or building/using PB before the quest.
    - You cannot use /PK.
    - If clear times vary between clients, the better time will be used.

    - Excluded from using for any TA submissions in this thread are the following items:

    • Clio on HUnewearl, Elenor on fleshies, Devil's & Angel's Wing on androids, Cat & Bunny Ears on males
    • (Event) weapons or Ephinea drop-chart featured weapons that normally don't come with Hit (based on JP drop charts): Hit Lollipop, Hit Izmaela, Hit Raikiri, Hit Huge Battle Fan, Hit Kunai, Hit Two Kamui, Hit Girasole, Hit Rambling May (taken from the Easter Event Shop Thread)
    • Event Type weapons with specials, e.g. TypeME/Mechgun 40H Charge

    Don't like these rules? Please refer to the Time Attack Thread which features a different set of rules and post your times there.

    Quests will be added as soon as people start running them. The same applies to player and game mode categories, i.e. one person mode. The best 3 times for a quest will be listed.

    Note that the MU E2 timers were modified, i.e. time increase.

    (For now I just put spoilers for screenshots; will add more stuff later on)


    Episode 1

    Mop-Up Operation #1
    2 players
    #1) 06"22 remaining - 03/03/17; Bagarozy (RAmar), Zen (HUcast).

    Mop-Up Operation #3
    2 players
    #1) 02"27 remaining - 03/15/17; Zen (HUcast), Bagarozy (RAmar).
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    Towards the Future
    2 players
    #1) 09"36 - 05/30/17; Zen (HUcast), CritDraw (RAmarl).
    [​IMG]

    #2) 10"01 - 05/30/17; Reimu (HUnewearl), Roo (RAcast).
    TTF Time 4.png

    #3) 10"39 - 03/28/17; Ceri0n (FOmar), mote (RAcast).

    Christmas Fiasco
    4 players
    #1) 14"44 remaining - 01/07/17; CritDraw (RAcast), Scotty (FOnewm), Zen (HUcast), Bagarozy (HUmar).
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    Episode 2

    Malicious Uprising #1
    4 players
    #1) 08"22 remaining - 01/22/17; Zen (HUcast), Colette (FOmarl), CritDraw (RAcast), Bagarozy (HUcast).
    MU1 E2 Time.jpg

    Malicious Uprising #2
    2 players
    #1) 09"53 remaining - 01/31/17; Bagarozy (RAmar), Zen (HUcast).
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    Malicious Uprising #3

    2 players
    #1) 05"17 remaining - 02/27/17; Bagarozy (RAmar), Zen (HUcast).
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    4 players
    #1) 06"03 remaining - 01/22/17; Bagarozy (RAmar), Zen (HUcast), Colette (FOmarl), CritDraw (RAcast).
    MU3 E2 Time.jpg

    Malicious Uprising #4
    4 players
    #1) 09"11 remaining - 01/22/17; Zen (HUcast), CritDraw (RAcast), Bagarozy (RAmar), ToasterMage (FOmarl).
    MU4 E2 Time.jpg

    Malicious Uprising #5
    1 player (solomode)
    #1) 08"49 remaining - 04/06/17; Zen (HUcast).
    [​IMG]

    4 players
    #1) 09"52 remaining - 01/22/17; Zen (HUcast), CritDraw (RAcast), ToasterMage (FOmarl), Bagarozy (RAmar).
    MU5 E2 Time.jpg

    Maximum Attack 4 Stage 2A
    3 players
    #1) 19"06 remaining - 02/15/17; Zen (HUcast), CritDraw (RAcast), Bagarozy (RAmar).
    MA42A Time.jpg

    Maximum Attack 4 Stage 2B
    3 players
    #1) 18"31 remaining - 02/01/17; CritDraw (RAcast), Zen (HUcast), Bagarozy (RAmar).
    42B 3P Time.jpg

    Maximum Attack 2 ver2
    3 players
    #1) 39"54 remaining - 02/03/17; Zen (HUcast), Bagarozy (RAmar), ToasterMage (RAmarl).
    MA2V2 Time.jpg

    Respective Tomorrow
    4 players
    #1) 15"35 - 02/02/17; Zen (HUcast), Daisuri (FOnewearl), Bagarozy (RAmar), CritDraw (RAcast).
    RT Time.jpg

    Lost Chaos Calibur
    2 players
    #1) 22"18 - 02/03/17; Zen (HUcast), Bagarozy (RAmar).
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    Episode 4

    New Mop-Up Operation #3
    1 player
    #1) 02"01 remaining - 05/24/16; Matt (FOnewm).
     
    Last edited: Jun 7, 2017
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  2. 500ryu

    500ryu Mean team member #47

    Good thread.
    I am taking up this post just incase anything needs to updated/maintained/added/etc

    I will also post one more time after this~
     
  3. 500ryu

    500ryu Mean team member #47

  4. Yalyn

    Yalyn Oh n-n-no ... w-what is this?

    Are we going to have in parentheses "(Recobox No-aggro)" for Ep2? I mean I know you can kill them very quickly via Hell but, is this major bug or is this depends on their very own client?
     
  5. 500ryu

    500ryu Mean team member #47

    It's not a bug and I think you answered your own question.

    No need to do this really
     
  6. Eistee

    Eistee Resident of Colony 9

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    Just an idea: Maybe there should be a category in which you are actually allowed to use iems exclusive to Ephinea?

    Speedrunners run mods all the time. As long as it doesn't invade the "normal" section, it could be ok - just like "4WayPB-runs" are an own category.

    Thoughts?
     
  7. falkenjeff

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    Sorry but this is a shit rule. These items are even allowed in @reason 's TA thread. I'll just be posting my times in his and competing with sandbox users (while playing normal mode myself) if I ever decide to play TA. His thread isn't actually sandbox exclusive. You are free to complete it on normal mode and submit a time. You are just at a disadvantage if you don't have good gear.

    The whole point of "normal mode TA" is that "anything obtainable is allowed."
     
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  8. anime

    anime 아니메

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    Well they are allowed in sandbox mode TA because you can use 65hit Charge Vulcans which are vastly superior ;0
     
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  9. Andy

    Andy Toxicest player

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    What exclusive items are you talking about ?_?
     
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  10. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff .

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    You are allowed to use anything obtainable if you play normal mode and submit a time in @reason 's thread.

    In normal mode you're allowed to use 100 hit charge vulcans. @Dab actually has an advantage over sandbox users, and is 100% allowed to use his item, because in normal mode TA anything obtainable is allowed.
     
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  11. conenubi701

    conenubi701 God

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    Well, you can use 80Hit (=]) or 100Hit Charge Vulcans on Normal Mode TA. lol.


    The gear is limited for everyone on Sandbox so there is more of a challenge on there since everyone is on even ground.
     
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  12. ToasterMage

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    pls
     
  13. anime

    anime 아니메

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    ...Like I said they are allowed in sandbox because the default hit for non-rare's is 65. In normal mode most people are going to have 50 hit vulcans, making Type-M's stronger.

    I don't really agree with the rule, just saying that it makes sense

    We vanilla now
     
  14. 500ryu

    500ryu Mean team member #47

    Since sandbox is an easily accessible mode we can all agree that [non] sandbox-TA should be using the items accessible by [non] Sandbox-Players.
     
  15. reason

    reason TActics

    I don't really understand why you would have the gear limitations when they are all obtainable in game.

    I think if you PM'd me I could've made my TA thread have a normal mode section.
     
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  16. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff .

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    You didn't make the sanbox rules, so you're really in no position to say "why they are allowed"

    That's also not a valid reason for disqualifying the item. If you don't have type-M and you're afraid it puts you at a TA disadvantage then.... boohoo, buy one? Or wait till next event?

    Anyone who's serious about TA (except maybe RAmar) is going to hunt 60+ hit vulcans anyway, and not use type M or 50 hit cvulcs. TA shouldn't be forcibly balanced around casuals.
     
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  17. Dab

    Dab Lord of Nibiru

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    Suck it, sandbox. :cool:
     
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  18. Spuz

    Spuz Flirting with retards.

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    Oh Lord. Drama for no reason. The rule is obviously because they like vanilla.
     
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  19. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff .

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    "New thread for no reason" is more like it.

    If you want gear limitations then why even bother with normal? At that point, just use sandbox. What's the point of hunting shit if you can't even use it? lmao.

    Reason's thread never excluded normal mode players from playing, and had zero gear limitations on them. (And arguably you don't even need to "show" your gear in the proof video because cheating is impossible.)
     
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  20. fishhao

    fishhao Fuck this game

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    Might as well make a "Official sandbox TA" which has all the rules reason listed, and a "no limits sandbox TA" that allows you to use whatever, but nothing too stupid like 127 hit items. Normal mode TA just sounds like an opportunity to humble brag about how good your gear is, and how much free time you have to waste on a game.
     
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