FO Gifoie Reference

Discussion in 'Guides' started by Matt, May 2, 2017.

  1. Matt

    Matt Administrator Staff Member

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    Please find below tables listing the amount of casts it requires to kill useful gifoie'able enemies as the FOs. Both Gifoie 29 and Gifoie 30 tables are provided, as things do change. (basically, you're going to want Gifoie 30 on both FOmar and FOnewearl)

    Regarding Gifoie itself, you only use it when there is an upcoming spawn with these enemies. These enemies have no invincibility frames on spawn, meaning Gifoie can be stacked to do lots of damage to them instantly (or kill them, depending on Gifoie strength).

    All numbers assume:
    • Max MST
    • Magical Piece
    • Ignition Cloak
    • Gifoie Merge
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    Legend:

    Green - Kills in the lowest amount of casts
    Yellow - Kills in neither the highest or lowest amount of casts
    Red - Kills in the highest amount of casts
    Red Number - Number of casts changed from Gifoie 29 → 30

    If there are any incorrect figures or enemies worth noting, please let me know.
     
    Last edited: May 2, 2017
  2. WInter Drizzle

    WInter Drizzle It makes no sense at all.

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  3. Nikki

    Nikki Member

    Aside gifoieing lizards and grantsing zu, Fomarl is not meant to tech spam. Same for FOmar really, they just Gi tech better.
     
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  4. Matt

    Matt Administrator Staff Member

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    I've updated the OP to contain two tables, one for Gifoie 29 and another for Gifoie 30, since some things do change and not many will realistically use Gifoie 30.
     
  5. reason

    reason Bug Man...

    Useful Information.
    Hopefully more Forces use Gifoie correctly in Random games.
    Makes it so much faster with someone who actually knows what to do.
     
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  6. Matt

    Matt Administrator Staff Member

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    Updated with Ob Lily (E1) and Darvants. The Gifoie 30 table also has red numbers now, which means that enemy/class combo has changed from Gifoie 29 to 30.
     
  7. Rune

    Rune Member

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    Mildly wondering what the data shows for with a few things:
    -only max mst
    -m. piece + max mst
    -m. piece + gifoie merge + max mst
     
  8. Eistee

    Eistee Resident of Colony 9

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    Nice! The only thing that now interests me is how all that would look without Ignition Cloak.
     
  9. falkenjeff

    falkenjeff I have quit the game

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    I use Gifoie 30 :D

    (I use a tech unit because Rabarta APPARENTLY gains "1 meter" of range from 29 to 30)
     
  10. Detourist

    Detourist Detourist#6717

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    This kind of data is amazing! I can't believe you took the time and made the effort to test this and put it together, @Matt ! And then hardly anyone posted or thanked you for this...but then when there was a pc for a 30 gifoie they referenced this to establish value. (leading it to an auction) yet still, no one made a peep really.
    Honestly, I REALLY appreciate the thankless work the shepards of this server do! It's very rare! Matt puts things like this together for us all to use, makes quests for us all to play, runs c-mode countless times to make us custom s-ranks for just 10pd to pay for his stuff when, being an admin, he could simply make anything in this game he wanted. But he doesn't! He instead works on the ground with us and the Dude Abides all the same rules he's set. (which really aren't that many, like 'don't cheat', 'don't scam' and 'bid fairly or bid farewell')
    On top of all that, he's so loyal to this tight handful of Ragol Refugees that he even took the care to fix a wrongly tekked 100h Musashi for a grand auction!
    I can't imagine having enough energy and passion to do all this every day for such an obscure, aging game while still still owing the majority of your time to a day job!
    We're all very lucky to have people like him on this server with us! This server would be much smaller without this degree of integral devotion!
    I enjoy this game more than I could ever to put into words!
    PLAY THIS GOD DAMN GAME BEFORE YOU DIE
     
  11. Detourist

    Detourist Detourist#6717

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  12. Lewnatic

    Lewnatic Member

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    I actually find this surprising. I used to use a level 180+ FOmarl and was quite capable of soloing EP4 with no issues in the slightest.
    Plus, FOmarl is the only decent looking class. Bum Bag and Wizard Gown are awful to look at.
     
  13. anime

    anime Bonsai Trees Staff Member

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    They're the worst EP4 FO from a min-max perspective. In a 4 player game, their Gifoie does the least damage.
    FOmarl does just fine in solo ep4 ^^
     
  14. Rune

    Rune Member

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    I like my wizard garb tyvm

    But on that note though yeah Fomarl trashes ep4 just like every other fo. Yeah she might do it a bit less speed wise than the other 3 but its not like she still isn't making good time for it. A good Rambling May, bringer's, excal or tyrell's, and of course slicers let her shoot n carve up the monsters of ep4 without issue.

    Plus it isn't like Fomarl can't clean up a bit if needed. Her full base power 616 foie, 506 gifoie, and 452 Rafoie (with a bit less damage for the ice and thunder ones after) damage before resists might be weaker than the other fo but a friendly reminder that the next level of power in tech classes is Hunewearl at 465 foie, 401 gifoie, 389 rafoie and then Ramarl with 436 foie, 371 gifoie, 360 rafoie power on her and considering how these are level 30 techs or so with Fomarl her damage hits groups better as well.
     
  15. Zues

    Zues ;3

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    then why even bother playing those classes XD
     
  16. anime

    anime Bonsai Trees Staff Member

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    Cause techs suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.
     
  17. Rune

    Rune Member

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    Attack techs do suck to be fair.
     
  18. Zues

    Zues ;3

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    Might as well play a damage class if you aren't going to play a force for damage purposes.
     
  19. anime

    anime Bonsai Trees Staff Member

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    but 30 SDJZ

    also you still do "damage", just primarily through Demons, DoB, Rambling May, Hell, etc
     
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  20. Zues

    Zues ;3

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    that's like the only good argument forces have left if you don't wanna use damage techs on them x3
    @30SDJZ thing
     

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