Thread comparing some Discord alternatives: https://mastodon.gamedev.place/@mdiluz/116043145998840217
Discord alternatives
- Thread starter rend
- Start date
Aemse
Enby Weirdo
- Guildcard
- 42003591
I was using Element for a while, but you need to get friends to join it - so its kinda like an uphill battle.
(plus theres a bit of an issue if you don't have it on two devices where it could potentially erase your message history without validating it on a 2nd device)
(plus theres a bit of an issue if you don't have it on two devices where it could potentially erase your message history without validating it on a 2nd device)
doopliss
aka pixarni
- Guildcard
- 42088515
https://stoat.chat is what my friends are recommending. their site is barely functioning rn tho bc ppl are trying to sign up en masse.
jellymouse
Member
- Guildcard
- 42019430
It's probably not a welcome thing but... Stoat fundamentally has all the same problems discord had, in terms of it's place and structure. It's just "discord but not yet".
If you're unhappy with how discord turned out in the end, with how terrible it is to use now, and how they're trying to sell out their entire userbase for a quick buck now that they're practically universal, know that Stoat is going to go down that exact same road. There's just no other path for that sort of service or software.
Element is great, but there's a lot of gochas that are great for extreme security, but that will absolutely end up ruining some normie's day a year or two in. It's pretty much the same with any Matrix client; Element is just the most feature rich Element client, used as a benchmark and reference for other clients to base off.
Personally, my recommendation, and I'm aware it's very unpopular, is to use XMPP for person to person communication and contact lists, and IRC for group chats. Rely on the clients to support end to end encryption where needed.
It's old, it's not fancy or flashy, and group video and voice calls aren't really a thing, but it's old, reliable, well supported, there's a diverse range of clients and servers to use, and you probably won't have your personal information sold to communists for a penny.
If you're unhappy with how discord turned out in the end, with how terrible it is to use now, and how they're trying to sell out their entire userbase for a quick buck now that they're practically universal, know that Stoat is going to go down that exact same road. There's just no other path for that sort of service or software.
Element is great, but there's a lot of gochas that are great for extreme security, but that will absolutely end up ruining some normie's day a year or two in. It's pretty much the same with any Matrix client; Element is just the most feature rich Element client, used as a benchmark and reference for other clients to base off.
Personally, my recommendation, and I'm aware it's very unpopular, is to use XMPP for person to person communication and contact lists, and IRC for group chats. Rely on the clients to support end to end encryption where needed.
It's old, it's not fancy or flashy, and group video and voice calls aren't really a thing, but it's old, reliable, well supported, there's a diverse range of clients and servers to use, and you probably won't have your personal information sold to communists for a penny.