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  1. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Maybe I did.
  2. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Well, that means the staff has changed their mind. In 2020, Ryan mentioned it was still on the table. So if that is no longer the case, then the discussion can be limited to “how can we get along?” I think saying that nothing will ever be done about this while knowing that it’s going to...
  3. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Another new realization that debunks the dead horse argument: If, after this many years of back and forth, we have one side that says there’s an issue and another side that says there isn’t an issue and people just need to do XYZ to get on board with it, and nobody budges, then that indicates a...
  4. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    You at least need to acknowledge that it’s not a dead horse. New perspectives and new ideas came to light in this most recent discussion. Cynicism in the face of that is disingenuous.
  5. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Now that is an interesting and original idea! Just so the “dead horse” regime is aware.
  6. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Yeah... lost focus there for a moment. You are correct. Very unkind. But correct.
  7. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    It’s nice to see that 2020 thread in which one of my detractors said I’m one of only 2-3 people who care about this end up being extremely wrong. A LOT of people are talking about this now and finding their voice. That’s yet another form of progression that the present-day detractors don’t see.
  8. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I was mainly referring to the "The FO should be the one who decides." I hadn't seen it argued in such a compelling manner before now.
  9. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Because new information and perspectives continue to come to light. You would see this if you took the time to read it.
  10. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I haven't much lately. It used to be a lot more fun.
  11. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I have 8 RAcasts, but I have more total EXP on HUcast than most people have total EXP, period. So let's not get personal here, please.
  12. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    A fair point. Also I'm not doing Vjaya math here so I'm not breaking my rule. But let's say you rack up a 20k restock bill to replace all the Mates you used in the absence of Resta. (It could easily be over 50k if you start chipping into Star Atomizers, so 20k is fair.) You can replace 40k...
  13. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I think the reason it comes primarily from the anti-DF crowd is they feel "stepped on" in game, so the first offense has already occurred, in their eyes. Intentional or not, perception motivates action. Edit: Or maybe there's just way more of them.
  14. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    It is definitely still a debate. And new perspectives are always being added to the fray. This is the first time I ever saw a compelling, "It is the FO's decision" argument, for example, in nine years of debating this. Stop with the manufactured fatigue. We're all here discussing this because...
  15. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Ya ;-; They were lazy for a time then got their act together when they discovered the infinite money machine.
  16. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    Well, it shows how half-baked the idea was. Because it's only available to 1/3 of players (Hunters) and it's highly disruptive. So obviously Sega didn't do a lot of balance considerations with DF. Maybe that's why it was not legitimately obtainable until the very end of official PSOBB. (And...
  17. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    You shouldn't assume a change won't happen on this. It was very close to happening a number of years ago, and I would contend that removing DMC or allowing for Divine Punishment to be used 24/7 are equally "game changers" in that regard. So it's not anywhere outside of the scope of possibility...
  18. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I suppose exploitative was a poor descriptor. I imagine the first person who figured it out probably had it proc unexpectedly and said, “Oh wow that was useful. I wonder if I could position my HP more effectively to make that happen more often?” It was wrong for me to assume that anything I...
  19. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    I would put "intentionally proccing invincibility" a step above the more obvious game mechanics, so I disagree with JC on that one. It requires an... I hate to say it... exploitative mindset. Which people are not naturally inclined to do. I never would have thought to do it myself if I had not...
  20. Ade

    No Resta Grr - DF Users Grr - a neverending debate?

    The main time would be trying to proc invincibility, but as soon as it's procced, then Resta is back on the table. So it's not a condition for the entire run, in most cases. Usually when an Epsilon, or multiple Epsilons, spawn. Also ep4 boss fight is a great time to proc invince, too, but...
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