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You're asking the wrong person, kip is the universe, you need to find mayn for any sort of insights on the nature of reality .n.

Mayn is too dark. Plus I haven't seen him on the forums in forevs

@TaoChaos You don't call out meaning, meaning calls out to you. The call will seem to come from without, whereas in reality it comes from within. A lack of calling comes from a lack of "valuation", or perhaps is it the other way around? n.- [idk what the fuck I'm talking about]

yes, this is why I want to put my head with yours. Let's yin and yang this out

Meaning is a human contrivance that the mind projects onto, and then infers from a world that exists as a result of chemical interactions and alien bioengineering =P

Not necessarily, since even chemical interactions have "meaning" without human extrapolation. And meaning can be derived without intention. The sun's light simply is, and yet it has meaning for plants and animals beyond it's true meaning.

But there is more to meaning than accidental causation when we can manipulate elements out of their "accidental" chaotic form. We can thus establish purpose through intentional creation

When we seek out meaning, we are breaking from the conglomeration of random chance to a higher level of existence. And yet the impetus of that breaking away can be the result of random chance.

However, it's what we then choose to do with it that defines meaning

Hmm I'm out of my intellectual league here, but it seems to me that you are defining inherent function as meaning i.e. chemicals and sunlight. Meaning still seems like a human contrivance to me; an imaginary extension of function, or a romanticization thereof.

Our brains are designed to organize things in such a way that information corresponds to our sense, and inferring meaning and imposing the concept of understanding upon things makes things processable to us. I see the search for meaning in anything that is not human or of human origin as our species' equivalent of chasing our tail around in circles though =P

there are no leagues when it comes to philosophy since it's all conjecture. In the end it is similar to religion in that you take what resonates with you and that is what you believe.